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Osgoode Hall Law School Professor Richard Haigh and his student co-host get together to discuss the in‘s and out‘s of Canadian law school life while attempting to be funny. Sit down, shut up, and don‘t forget to do your readings.
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Jul 16, 2020
Jul 16, 2020
30 min
Richard and Adam are joined by Conor Fitzgerald, a 1L student at Osgoode Hall Law School enrolled in the Joint JD/MBA Program. Conor talks about his unique background and his pursuit of the joint MBA/JD program***. Conor was part of the Arts, Media and Entertainment program at Schulich, where he was exposed to 1Ls before 1L. The group talk about the rhythm of law school. Conor reflects on coming into law school knowing how to fail. Richard and Conor talk about their class without jokes before Conor reveals a deep hatred (kidding) for Richard's classes.
Check out Conor's Projects:
Bygone Theatre https://www.bygonetheatre.com/
The Toronto Independent Theatre Coalition https://www.thetitc.ca/
Music Attribution:
What's Love Got to Do with It (Symphonic Version)
by Tina Turner
Buy now: https://VA.lnk.to/80sSymphonic
Jul 5, 2020
Jul 5, 2020
23 min
Richard and Adam are joined by Kaliopi Dimitrakoudis, who recently finished her first year at Osgoode Hall Law School.
Adam asks about ride or dies. Richard wonders, if law school is like high school, then is he a high school teacher. Adam shouts out Ovais. Kali reflects on her first year. She explains how she overcame difficulties early in her first year. She admits that she didn't go to enough pub nights despite Adam's advice. Adam shares a first year regret. Kali explains her approach heading into 2L.
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Tell us about your 1L regrets.
Music Attribution:
What's Love Got to Do with It (Symphonic Version)
by Tina Turner
Buy now: https://VA.lnk.to/80sSymphonic
May 13, 2020
May 13, 2020
24 min
Richard and Adam are joined by Sabah Kalim, who recently finished 1L at Osgoode Hall Law School. Adam asks about Ride or Dies before rambling on about law school relationships. Sabah reflects on her first year experience. She talks about experiencing guilt and uncertainty. Adam claims he had a mental breakdown in 1L.
Sabah loves school, Adam is shocked. Adam puts her on the spot about Grad School. Adam and Sabah share their experience with Isolation curing COVID-19 while finishing the easiest and hardest years (respectively) of law school.
Sabah chooses her favourite podcast host. Richard tips the scales. The group talks about the difficulty of taking advice as a 1L.
Required Readings:
None. Welcome to Season 4!
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. The lack of voicemails seems to indicate no one reads this far.
Music Attribution:
What's Love Got to Do with It (Symphonic Version)
by Tina Turner
Buy now: https://VA.lnk.to/80sSymphonic
May 1, 2020
May 1, 2020
30 min
Richard and Adam are joined by Denis Keimakh, returning guest and future law school attendee (0L). Adam tries out the hand guns before psychoanalyzing Denis. Denis, having never attended law school, is asked to describe various aspects of the experience:
What is a typical day like?
What is the exam period like?
What is on a law exam?
What happens at law school social events?
What do you bring into an exam?
At first, Adam grades him a B+ on his answers. The group discusses the Socratic method, and other approaches to teaching law. On reflection, Adam considers giving an A. Richard gives exam advice about open book exams. Denis talks about school tours and how he is approaching his choice of what law school to go to. Adam talks about bang for your buck.
Required Readings:
Scott Lilienfeld, Steven Lynn, John Ruscio, Barry Beyerstein, "50 Great Myths of Popular Psychology: Shattering Widespread Misconceptions About Human Behavior"
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Tell us what you bring into an exam.
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "Sam Tanner" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuCmgghQ6MA
"Cold Sober"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
Apr 23, 2020
Apr 23, 2020
28 min
Richard and Adam are joined by Denis Keimakh, future law school attendee, better known as a 0L law student. Richard forgets his role on the podcast.
Denis shares why he decided to apply to law school. Adam says criminal law is the only interesting part of criminal law. Adam asks if the podcast has left any questions unanswered. Richard is suspiciously familiar with "razor-blading textbooks". Writing the LSAT electronically. Denis talks about touring Osgoode and attending Mock Trial (variety show). What is law school really like? The group discusses the diversity of backgrounds at law school; both serious and relaxed. Adam talks about regrets from 1L.
Adam asks Denis what advice he would give himself at the beginning of the process to getting to law school.
7sage LSAT Prep FREE youtube videos.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKVQOf1GQy4m-bRO_qXvafg
Required Readings:
Scott Lilienfeld, Steven Lynn, John Ruscio, Barry Beyerstein, "50 Great Myths of Popular Psychology: Shattering Widespread Misconceptions About Human Behavior"
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Tell us about your favourite composer?
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "Sam Tanner" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuCmgghQ6MA
"Cold Sober"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
Apr 15, 2020
Apr 15, 2020
34 min
Richard and Adam are joined by Dan Priel, Associate Professor at Osgoode Hall Law School. Danny, as his friends refer to him, taught Adam Torts and teaches a variety of courses at Osgoode. The group discusses this unlikely hypothesis raised by Richard: Professors are people too. Adam doesn't believe it.
Danny explains that students only see professors during their "performance", particularly early on. Adam talks about the shock and awe of sitting in Danny and Richard's classes on his first day. An unexpected question arises: Have you ever been hurt my students? Luckily, neither prof. has been assaulted but both share difficult moments in their teaching careers. What impact does attire have on the perceptions of professors. Can they wear a toga to teach? Adam interrogates his professors on the grading process, and much is revealed! Other topics include prep time for teaching and Danny's dream propositions for future seminars focused on Curb Your Enthusiasm and musical appreciation.
Required Readings:
Scott Lilienfeld, Steven Lynn, John Ruscio, Barry Beyerstein, "50 Great Myths of Popular Psychology: Shattering Widespread Misconceptions About Human Behavior"
"Curb Your Enthusiasm & the Law" Seminar Readings:
Curb Your Enthusiasm (Series 2, Episode 3) - 7 October, 2001
Music Appreciation Class Listenings:
Gustav Mahler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPLiEsp4yQU
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Tell us about your favourite composer?
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "Sam Tanner" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuCmgghQ6MA
"Cold Sober"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
Mar 27, 2020
Mar 27, 2020
21 min
Richard and Adam are joined by NOBODY in this special episode of WLG2DWI. Speaking over ZOOm video conferencing, the duo discuss the prospect of dealing with barriers to law school outside of their control. They discuss how students can overcome these challenges. Richard and Adam talk about their own isolation. Professor Haigh thinks that students may have more time but he is completely insensitive to those who are struggling with the crisis. Adam says stay social and work out for God's sake.
Required Readings:
The Obstacle is the Way - Ryan Holiday
Man's Search for Meaning - Victor Frankl
The Power of Habit - Charles Duhogg
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Please share with us your experience with the pandemic and law school.
Music Attribution:
"Cold Sober"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "The Scissors" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoArsw1XXY
Mar 20, 2020
Mar 20, 2020
24 min
Richard and Adam are joined by Baiqing Luo a second-year student at Osgoode Hall Law School and a "true International student" from China. Baiqing shares her experience tackling law school in a foreign land. Richard and Adam interrogate Baiqing on her experience writing the LSAT in Hong Kong while working full-time and on her arrival in Canada for her first day of law school.
Baiqing explains that she moved to Canada for the weather! Adam admits he has never been to the 4 seasons. She admits that the Canadian question "how are you?" is perplexing before reviewing Canadian Friendliness. You might be surprised by her rating! Baiqing also shares some experiences unique to Canada and answers some questions about her future residence.
Required Readings:
None! Prep for that LSAT!
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Are you an international student? Let us know.
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "Sam Tanner" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuCmgghQ6MA
Mar 11, 2020
Mar 11, 2020
27 min
Richard and Adam are joined by Simran Singh, a second year law student at Osgoode Hall Law School and returning guest to the show. No one knows what the readings are. Richard admits that he has watched Training Day, Adam doubts Denzel again. Simran picks a favourite movie that he has never seen. This week's topic: Perseverance. Simran discusses a couple setbacks he persevered through. He shares how he overcame falling behind in 1L. Adam changes his whole perspective on law school. Richard tries to name the podcast.
The group agrees that the challenge of law school is something that should be embraced.
Required Readings:
http://www.jamie-foxx.us/2015/12/jamie-foxx-on-the-tim-ferriss-show/
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Tell us about your special struggle.
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "The Scissors" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoArsw1XXY
Feb 16, 2020
Feb 16, 2020
28 min
Richard and Adam are joined by Jennah Khaled and Patrick McCaugherty second-year students at Osgoode Hall Law School and returning guests to the show. The group continues their discussion of Research Assistantships and moves into the common topic of creativity. Jennah disparages a number of professions. Richard gets defensive about a reflective journal assignment. When should one try to be creative in law school? When should one refrain?
Adam claims that beggars cannot be choosers when it comes to law jobs. Jennah discusses a love for fiction that doesn't mesh with law school at times. She proposes that legal analysis tends to leave behind the human facts underlying the cases. Patrick comments on thinking outside of the box in order to achieve career goals and not falling into the traditional job traps. How do we think strategically in creative ways? Richard talks about "deemed Mondays".
Required Listenings:
PODCAST: Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick - Law, Justice, and the Courts - https://open.spotify.com/show/7DpL32jgjwBTah8o9HQkBl?si=qhZEGntTSL2cFWealGkJGw
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Give us your best impression of a Monday on a Friday.
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "Sam Tanner" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuCmgghQ6MA
Jan 28, 2020
Jan 28, 2020
27 min
Richard and Adam are joined by Michael McNeely, a 3L student at Osgoode Hall Law School and returning guest to the show. Unfortunately, sequels never do that well. The group spoils Erin Brockovich. Michael brings up the difficulties law students face in staying faithful to their reasons for coming to law school. Adam remains faithful to finding the job in which he will be least liked. Michael talks about his own case in the legal system.
The gang discusses the worst part of the year, the end of term. Why must it be this way? Adam claims its a chance to compile all things you've learned in the term. He proceeds to compare rabbits and hares. Michael takes issue with 100% exams as representative of lawyering abilities. Is there a chance to learn the law in areas you miss out on in law school? Richard thinks so. The trio brainstorm alternatives to the current law school system of learning.
Required Readings:
None. Go learn Real Estate Law.
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. What creative learning strategies could get you out of exams?
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "The Scissors" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoArsw1XXY
Jan 19, 2020
Jan 19, 2020
22 min
Richard and Adam are joined by Jennah Khaled and Patrick McCaugherty second-year students at Osgoode Hall Law School. Jennah and Patrick discuss being an RA (that’s research assistant for those unaware). The newest voicemail is played on air! A law student waxes poetic about the podcast, especially Adam. Richard thinks it’s a set-up.
The Good Wife gets another nod from Jennah while Patrick gives Suits another vote, so those two are running neck-and-neck in our most popular law show category. Suits vs. Good Wife is now an official poll. Adam doesn’t get that a dramatic show doesn’t need to be funny.
Pants were returned to the mall after an exam, although it isn’t clear why or what that has to do with being an RA. Adam, despite being hungover, engages in excellent cross-examination of the guests. Research on roads and railways was one of their summer projects. While some people may say directly that it might be boring, Adam thinks its better to say it’s "not wrong" to say that it's boring.
Everyone discusses the benefits of an Raship. The guests single out the philosopher-king RA and also talk about doing the job while located remotely from the professor with little or no supervision. Richard suggests that the students are treated as near-professional adults.
Jennah explains working at an asylum legal clinic in Tijuana; how law students can get fascinating summer jobs related to the law
Adam calls Richard “Sir”.
Required Readings:
None! Go ask a Prof for a job!
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Can you beat this week's voicemail?
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "The Scissors" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoArsw1XXY
Jan 11, 2020
Jan 11, 2020
27 min
Richard and Adam are joined by Simran Singh, a second year law student at Osgoode Hall Law School. Simran is a little under the weather, but shares his insights on the 2L workload. Adam shows some animosity towards Denzel Washington. The group discusses how the skills and efficiency from 1L are brought into 2L. Simran shares the "gold medalist" strategy for success, and how he deviated from it.
Is an interest in reading crucial to law school? Adam describes his naïve undergrad reading habits and challenges students to get mad about cases they learn about. Professor Haigh swears, finally. Simran rants about the connection between emotion and reasoning before explaining how not to write a personal statement. This episode has all the advice you don't want to miss out on!
Required Readings:
Why are you reading this? Read for class!
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Disagree with us? We want to know! (Talking to you Denzel).
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "The Scissors" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoArsw1XXY
Jan 3, 2020
Jan 3, 2020
32 min
Richard and Adam are joined by Howie Kislowicz, Associate Professor at the University of Calgary to talk about law school culture and the view from the lectern. Adam does his readings... Kind of. Howie asks, "What's your law and order dream team?". Howie contrasts his earlier experiences teaching at the University of New Brunswick. The group discusses sense of community, class sizes, participation, diversity in admissions and more!
Howie and Richard discuss the challenge of choosing what your students call you. First name? Or Professor X? Howie shares the Kislowicz Unintentional Singing Promise (KUSP), where he made a promise to his students that he will sing a response to any question sung to him in class. Richard and Adam dive into Howie's law-themed love songs and discover the origin story of a great artist in a law school boy band.
Required Readings Listenings:
https://soundcloud.com/howie-kislowicz
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. WLG2DWI-USP doesn't have the same ring to it, but sing in a question and we will sing a response.
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "Sam Tanner" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuCmgghQ6MA
Howie Kislowicz - "Country Love Song" [excerpt], "Administrative Lover" [outro].
Find it at https://soundcloud.com/howie-kislowicz
Dec 27, 2019
Dec 27, 2019
26 min
Richard and Adam are joined by Oliver Backman, a 2L student at Osgoode Hall Law School. Adam performs his worst intro ever. Oliver talks about his role in the play "Inherit the wind" prior to law school. The group discusses the distinctions between upper year classes and first year classes. Oliver shares his observations as a new 2L, surrounded by more specialized or experienced students in certain subject areas. Richard and Adam stretch the comparison to medical school as far as they can. Do students go to law school on a whim?
The gang discusses the intertwining of law subjects and Adam shares some stories from his 2L summer job in criminal law. Richard commends Oliver for his in class jokes. Oliver replicates a joke on the show and plugs his podcast. Professor Haigh is Aretha Franklin.
Required Readings:
Steven A. Abreu, Sunstein Law, "Crazy In Love With Trademarks: What Can Jay-Z and Beyoncé Teach Us About Trademark Filing?" April 22, 2012. https://www.sunsteinlaw.com/publications/sa-crazy-in-love-with-trademarks-what-can-jay-z-and-beyonc%C3%A9-teach-us-about-trademark-filing
LISTEN: Beyond a Reasonable Podcast - BARpodcast.libsyn.com
WATCH: Inherit the Wind (1960)
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Please send us your law-themed jokes, we will play them on the show!.
Music Attribution:
"Black Vortex"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "The Scissors" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoArsw1XXY
Nov 15, 2019
Nov 15, 2019
19 min
Richard and Adam are joined by Mary Barbieri, a faculty assistant at Osgoode Hall Law School. Mary quickly jumps to the chase and asks if Meno-rage could be a defence for a crime. She explains how she brings her customer service background to her role at Osgoode. Richard and Adam ask whether students take administrative staff for granted. Mary explains the power of free cookies, a person to talk to, and meal prep.
Mary breaks the record for number of law related shows recommended, and she only scratches the surface of her list!
Required Readings:
None. Eat something healthy.
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. What do you want our next episode to be about?
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "Sam Tanner" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuCmgghQ6MA
Oct 18, 2019
Oct 18, 2019
25 min
Richard and Adam are joined by Thaddeus Hwong, a professor in the Liberal Arts and Professional Studies faculty at York University. Thaddeus researches and teaching in the area of tax law and policy. Richard and Adam are confronted with the question of what would be written on their tombstones, which they only answer at the end of the episode. Thaddeus talks about a non-legal movie until it becomes a legal movie. The group tackle the veracity of attendance policies which Thaddeus analogizes to a bad marriage. Is skipping class like "leaving the jean store without the jeans"? The group talks about the ability of computational proficiency to make better arguments.
Required Readings:
None. You have no reason to skip class now.
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Sometimes its just funny to hear the answering machine.
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "Sam Tanner" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuCmgghQ6MA
Oct 11, 2019
Oct 11, 2019
25 min
Richard and Adam are joined by Jennifer Steenbeek, a 3L student at Osgoode Hall Law School to address WLG2DWI's first listener voicemail from (now 1L) Serena! Richard and Adam venture far outside their expertise as they talk about being a parent in law school. Jenn shares her experience with her 3 year old daughter, revealing both the benefits and challenges of this responsibility.
Adam wonders if parents are friends with other parents. Richard thinks they should they have a new club. Jenn isn't sure who would have the time to run it. The group tries to come up with some advice for incoming parents like Serena. The gang discusses bringing your child to class or reading your papers to your kids.
Jenn and Adam prophesize about how being a parent already might help prepare a law student for the challenges of being a mother early in their law career. Finally, Richard opines about the quality of accomodations offered at law school for parents.
Required Readings:
What Being a Mom in Law School is Really Like - New England Law School https://www.nesl.edu/news/detail/what-being-a-mom-in-law-school-is-really-like
The Docket podcast - Michael Spratt & Emilie Taman (See "The Staircase Aftershow" in 8 parts) http://www.michaelspratt.com/poadcast-legal-matters
Clayton Johnson - Wrongfully convicted Canadian counter-part to US "Staircase" story. https://innocencecanada.com/exonerations/clayton-johnson/
Definitions in this Part
2(1) Definitions
- "mature student" means basically anything Adam says it does.
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Tell me a bedtime story … about trusts .
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "Sam Tanner" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuCmgghQ6MA
Oct 3, 2019
Oct 3, 2019
27 min
Richard and Adam are joined by Barbara Brown, a 2L student at Osgoode Hall Law School to reflect on her recent experiences conquering her first year of law school! Barbara discloses that her 1L experience was both better and worse than she thought. The group talk about the importance of time management and the countervailing urge to say "yes" to more and more commitments at law school.
The group talk about the importance of mentorship in law school. Adam gets on his high horse and gives advice to both mentors and mentees. Richard reminds us all that professors are people too (although a lingering doubt remains).
Required Readings:
The Law School Book: Succeeding at Law School by Allan C. Hutchinson
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Say "yes" and call us already.
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "Sam Tanner" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuCmgghQ6MA
Sep 27, 2019
Sep 27, 2019
21 min
Richard and Adam are joined by Paul Guglielmo, returning guest and 3L student at Osgoode Hall Law School. The group tackles the voluminous topic that is the formal recruit in two episodes. Adam and Paul share their varied perspectives and experiences with interviewing. The group discusses the importance of an interesting "interest section" on a legal resume. Richard talks about his most recent interview. Embrace the power of reading the room and finding the fit in the legal world.
Required Readings:
Articling Horror Stories - Simon Lewson - Precedent JD https://precedentjd.com/news/feature-articling-horror-stories/
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. What is the hardest interview question you've faced?
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "Sam Tanner" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuCmgghQ6MA