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Osgoode Hall Law School Professor Richard Haigh and his student co-host get together to discuss the in‘s and out‘s of Canadian law school life while attempting to be funny. Sit down, shut up, and don‘t forget to do your readings.
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Tuesday Jan 28, 2020
Tuesday Jan 28, 2020
Richard and Adam are joined by Michael McNeely, a 3L student at Osgoode Hall Law School and returning guest to the show. Unfortunately, sequels never do that well. The group spoils Erin Brockovich. Michael brings up the difficulties law students face in staying faithful to their reasons for coming to law school. Adam remains faithful to finding the job in which he will be least liked. Michael talks about his own case in the legal system.
The gang discusses the worst part of the year, the end of term. Why must it be this way? Adam claims its a chance to compile all things you've learned in the term. He proceeds to compare rabbits and hares. Michael takes issue with 100% exams as representative of lawyering abilities. Is there a chance to learn the law in areas you miss out on in law school? Richard thinks so. The trio brainstorm alternatives to the current law school system of learning.
Required Readings:
None. Go learn Real Estate Law.
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. What creative learning strategies could get you out of exams?
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "The Scissors" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoArsw1XXY
Sunday Jan 19, 2020
Sunday Jan 19, 2020
Richard and Adam are joined by Jennah Khaled and Patrick McCaugherty second-year students at Osgoode Hall Law School. Jennah and Patrick discuss being an RA (that’s research assistant for those unaware). The newest voicemail is played on air! A law student waxes poetic about the podcast, especially Adam. Richard thinks it’s a set-up.
The Good Wife gets another nod from Jennah while Patrick gives Suits another vote, so those two are running neck-and-neck in our most popular law show category. Suits vs. Good Wife is now an official poll. Adam doesn’t get that a dramatic show doesn’t need to be funny.
Pants were returned to the mall after an exam, although it isn’t clear why or what that has to do with being an RA. Adam, despite being hungover, engages in excellent cross-examination of the guests. Research on roads and railways was one of their summer projects. While some people may say directly that it might be boring, Adam thinks its better to say it’s "not wrong" to say that it's boring.
Everyone discusses the benefits of an Raship. The guests single out the philosopher-king RA and also talk about doing the job while located remotely from the professor with little or no supervision. Richard suggests that the students are treated as near-professional adults.
Jennah explains working at an asylum legal clinic in Tijuana; how law students can get fascinating summer jobs related to the law
Adam calls Richard “Sir”.
Required Readings:
None! Go ask a Prof for a job!
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Can you beat this week's voicemail?
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "The Scissors" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoArsw1XXY
Saturday Jan 11, 2020
Saturday Jan 11, 2020
Richard and Adam are joined by Simran Singh, a second year law student at Osgoode Hall Law School. Simran is a little under the weather, but shares his insights on the 2L workload. Adam shows some animosity towards Denzel Washington. The group discusses how the skills and efficiency from 1L are brought into 2L. Simran shares the "gold medalist" strategy for success, and how he deviated from it.
Is an interest in reading crucial to law school? Adam describes his naïve undergrad reading habits and challenges students to get mad about cases they learn about. Professor Haigh swears, finally. Simran rants about the connection between emotion and reasoning before explaining how not to write a personal statement. This episode has all the advice you don't want to miss out on!
Required Readings:
Why are you reading this? Read for class!
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Disagree with us? We want to know! (Talking to you Denzel).
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "The Scissors" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoArsw1XXY
Friday Jan 03, 2020
Friday Jan 03, 2020
Richard and Adam are joined by Howie Kislowicz, Associate Professor at the University of Calgary to talk about law school culture and the view from the lectern. Adam does his readings... Kind of. Howie asks, "What's your law and order dream team?". Howie contrasts his earlier experiences teaching at the University of New Brunswick. The group discusses sense of community, class sizes, participation, diversity in admissions and more!
Howie and Richard discuss the challenge of choosing what your students call you. First name? Or Professor X? Howie shares the Kislowicz Unintentional Singing Promise (KUSP), where he made a promise to his students that he will sing a response to any question sung to him in class. Richard and Adam dive into Howie's law-themed love songs and discover the origin story of a great artist in a law school boy band.
Required Readings Listenings:
https://soundcloud.com/howie-kislowicz
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. WLG2DWI-USP doesn't have the same ring to it, but sing in a question and we will sing a response.
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "Sam Tanner" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuCmgghQ6MA
Howie Kislowicz - "Country Love Song" [excerpt], "Administrative Lover" [outro].
Find it at https://soundcloud.com/howie-kislowicz
Friday Dec 27, 2019
Friday Dec 27, 2019
Richard and Adam are joined by Oliver Backman, a 2L student at Osgoode Hall Law School. Adam performs his worst intro ever. Oliver talks about his role in the play "Inherit the wind" prior to law school. The group discusses the distinctions between upper year classes and first year classes. Oliver shares his observations as a new 2L, surrounded by more specialized or experienced students in certain subject areas. Richard and Adam stretch the comparison to medical school as far as they can. Do students go to law school on a whim?
The gang discusses the intertwining of law subjects and Adam shares some stories from his 2L summer job in criminal law. Richard commends Oliver for his in class jokes. Oliver replicates a joke on the show and plugs his podcast. Professor Haigh is Aretha Franklin.
Required Readings:
Steven A. Abreu, Sunstein Law, "Crazy In Love With Trademarks: What Can Jay-Z and Beyoncé Teach Us About Trademark Filing?" April 22, 2012. https://www.sunsteinlaw.com/publications/sa-crazy-in-love-with-trademarks-what-can-jay-z-and-beyonc%C3%A9-teach-us-about-trademark-filing
LISTEN: Beyond a Reasonable Podcast - BARpodcast.libsyn.com
WATCH: Inherit the Wind (1960)
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Please send us your law-themed jokes, we will play them on the show!.
Music Attribution:
"Black Vortex"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "The Scissors" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoArsw1XXY
Friday Nov 15, 2019
Friday Nov 15, 2019
Richard and Adam are joined by Mary Barbieri, a faculty assistant at Osgoode Hall Law School. Mary quickly jumps to the chase and asks if Meno-rage could be a defence for a crime. She explains how she brings her customer service background to her role at Osgoode. Richard and Adam ask whether students take administrative staff for granted. Mary explains the power of free cookies, a person to talk to, and meal prep.
Mary breaks the record for number of law related shows recommended, and she only scratches the surface of her list!
Required Readings:
None. Eat something healthy.
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. What do you want our next episode to be about?
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "Sam Tanner" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuCmgghQ6MA
Friday Oct 18, 2019
Friday Oct 18, 2019
Richard and Adam are joined by Thaddeus Hwong, a professor in the Liberal Arts and Professional Studies faculty at York University. Thaddeus researches and teaching in the area of tax law and policy. Richard and Adam are confronted with the question of what would be written on their tombstones, which they only answer at the end of the episode. Thaddeus talks about a non-legal movie until it becomes a legal movie. The group tackle the veracity of attendance policies which Thaddeus analogizes to a bad marriage. Is skipping class like "leaving the jean store without the jeans"? The group talks about the ability of computational proficiency to make better arguments.
Required Readings:
None. You have no reason to skip class now.
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Sometimes its just funny to hear the answering machine.
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "Sam Tanner" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuCmgghQ6MA
Friday Oct 11, 2019
Friday Oct 11, 2019
Richard and Adam are joined by Jennifer Steenbeek, a 3L student at Osgoode Hall Law School to address WLG2DWI's first listener voicemail from (now 1L) Serena! Richard and Adam venture far outside their expertise as they talk about being a parent in law school. Jenn shares her experience with her 3 year old daughter, revealing both the benefits and challenges of this responsibility.
Adam wonders if parents are friends with other parents. Richard thinks they should they have a new club. Jenn isn't sure who would have the time to run it. The group tries to come up with some advice for incoming parents like Serena. The gang discusses bringing your child to class or reading your papers to your kids.
Jenn and Adam prophesize about how being a parent already might help prepare a law student for the challenges of being a mother early in their law career. Finally, Richard opines about the quality of accomodations offered at law school for parents.
Required Readings:
What Being a Mom in Law School is Really Like - New England Law School https://www.nesl.edu/news/detail/what-being-a-mom-in-law-school-is-really-like
The Docket podcast - Michael Spratt & Emilie Taman (See "The Staircase Aftershow" in 8 parts) http://www.michaelspratt.com/poadcast-legal-matters
Clayton Johnson - Wrongfully convicted Canadian counter-part to US "Staircase" story. https://innocencecanada.com/exonerations/clayton-johnson/
Definitions in this Part
2(1) Definitions
- "mature student" means basically anything Adam says it does.
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Tell me a bedtime story … about trusts .
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "Sam Tanner" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuCmgghQ6MA
Thursday Oct 03, 2019
Thursday Oct 03, 2019
Richard and Adam are joined by Barbara Brown, a 2L student at Osgoode Hall Law School to reflect on her recent experiences conquering her first year of law school! Barbara discloses that her 1L experience was both better and worse than she thought. The group talk about the importance of time management and the countervailing urge to say "yes" to more and more commitments at law school.
The group talk about the importance of mentorship in law school. Adam gets on his high horse and gives advice to both mentors and mentees. Richard reminds us all that professors are people too (although a lingering doubt remains).
Required Readings:
The Law School Book: Succeeding at Law School by Allan C. Hutchinson
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Say "yes" and call us already.
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "Sam Tanner" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuCmgghQ6MA
Friday Sep 27, 2019
Friday Sep 27, 2019
Richard and Adam are joined by Paul Guglielmo, returning guest and 3L student at Osgoode Hall Law School. The group tackles the voluminous topic that is the formal recruit in two episodes. Adam and Paul share their varied perspectives and experiences with interviewing. The group discusses the importance of an interesting "interest section" on a legal resume. Richard talks about his most recent interview. Embrace the power of reading the room and finding the fit in the legal world.
Required Readings:
Articling Horror Stories - Simon Lewson - Precedent JD https://precedentjd.com/news/feature-articling-horror-stories/
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. What is the hardest interview question you've faced?
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "Sam Tanner" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuCmgghQ6MA
Friday Sep 20, 2019
Friday Sep 20, 2019
Richard and Adam are joined by Paul Guglielmo, returning guest and 3L student at Osgoode Hall Law School. The group tackles the voluminous topic that is the formal recruit in two episodes. From 1L jobs, through the "On Campus Interviews", the various "call days", to the Articling recruit and beyond! Adam and Paul share their tips and perspective having just gone through the formal process. Richard asks about the impact of course selection on future interviews. Adam is revealed to not be as "chill" as he puts on.
Required Readings:
Eaves, Png and Ramseyer, “Gender, Ethnicity and Grades: Empirical Evidence of Discrimination in Law-Firm Interviews" (1989) 7 Law and Inequality 189.
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Tell us about your recruit debacles.
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "Sam Tanner" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuCmgghQ6MA
Vybz Kartel - "Court Case"
The Teacher's Back
Saturday Sep 14, 2019
Saturday Sep 14, 2019
Richard and Adam are guest-less this episode as they reflect back on the second "season" of the podcast. They dispel podcast "myths" that have gotten out of hand. They talk highlights and goals for the coming year. Adam realizes he is now a 3L student. The pair ponder what will happen once Adam graduates. Adam explains why he doesn't do his readings.
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Tell us what we need to do this season!
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "The Scissors" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoArsw1XXY
Friday Sep 06, 2019
Friday Sep 06, 2019
Richard and Adam are joined by Corey Fletcher, a (former) first-year student at Osgoode Hall Law School and returning guest to the show. The group talk about extra-curriculars at Osgoode, cheating on exams in the media, and the Osgoode Ski Trip. Corey offers insight into the most psychologically challenging moments in 1L, such as midterms, exam week and grades release. Adam releases his first podcast swears (recorded before he became a potty-mouth). The gang answers such questions as:
Should I talk about my exams after they are over?
What do my first set of grades tell me about myself?
Does the FIFA World Cup trophy contradict the sport's cardinal rule?
Required Readings:
"You Be the Judge", H. Clark Adams QC, Dundurn (Dec 3 2011). see Bank of Toronto v Simpson.
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Tell us about the law school rumour that you started.
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "The Scissors" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoArsw1XXY
Friday Aug 30, 2019
Friday Aug 30, 2019
Richard and Adam are joined by Lisa Del Col, an Osgoode Hall Law School alumna who works in justice education. The group talks about having classes outdoors, surviving the great white north, and alternatives to typical legal practice. Lisa shares her story of finding herself at law school as a first generation, Indigenous law student. She talks about building the courage to speak in class. Richard and Lisa talk about social events with law professors and "Drinks with Haigh". Adam unknowingly perceptive, elaborates on a nautical metaphor.
Required Readings:
NONE! Read your casebooks.
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Do you have a recommendation for a future episode? Let us know!
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "The Scissors" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoArsw1XXY
Thursday Aug 22, 2019
Thursday Aug 22, 2019
Richard and Adam are joined by Matti Thurlin, a second year student at Osgoode Hall Law School, pursuing a JD with an MA in Philosophy. The gang discusses the phenomenon of being geographically displaced to attend law school. Matti hails from Edmonton, AB. Richard was from Calgary, AB before attending law school. Adam comes from a small Northern Ontario town. Each tells their story and offers advice for adapting to a new place and to the world of law.
The group tackles the issue of loneliness during 1L. It might be more common than you think. Richard also pretends his friends listen to the show.
Required Readings:
NONE! Go chat with someone.
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Tell us about your experience being displaced for law school.
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "The Scissors" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoArsw1XXY
"Tech Live"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
Friday Aug 16, 2019
Friday Aug 16, 2019
Richard and Adam are joined by Summaiya Zaidi, a graduate student at Osgoode Hall Law School. Summaiya also completed her law degree (LLB) at LUMS, in Lahore, Pakistan, her Masters of Law degree (LLM) at the SOAS in London, UK, and has taught law for about 8 years. Summaiya and Richard dive into their personal experiences with graduate school. Summaiya talks about her research into why lawyers in Pakistan chose law through the years. Richard jumps to conclusions.
Should someone practice first before going to grad school? Why do a doctorate in Canada?
Required Readings:
Brown, Howard G., et al. “A Statement on Interprofessional Relationships at the Graduate School Level: Law and Social Work.” Family Law Quarterly, vol. 4, no. 1, 1970, pp. 106–111. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/25738938.
WATCH: "Black Earth Rising", BBC Series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=ugxQuVPmVZU
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Ask and we shall answer.
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "The Scissors" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoArsw1XXY
Thursday Jul 11, 2019
Thursday Jul 11, 2019
Richard and Adam are joined by Laura Simon a second-year student at Osgoode Hall Law School, for the second part of our two part episode on the LSAT! The group chats about Orange is the New Black before diving into the logical reasoning section of the LSAT. Richard raises the issue of time-constraints on the LSAT, a challenge that continues into law school. Laura discusses the strategy of skipping questions.
Adam complains about the experimental section, and Laura tells how she figured out the fake section of her test. Adam continues to complain about the writing sample #Brewpub4Lyfe. Richard lets loose with his gripes about the LSAT. Adam introduces Professor Haigh to the timeless game, "would you rather?".
Required Readings:
Law School Admissions Test Blog - https://lsatblog.blogspot.com/p/welcome.html
LSAT Practice Test - https://harvardready.com/res/files/SamplePTJune.pdf
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Adam will tell you his LSAT score if you do.
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "The Scissors" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoArsw1XXY
Tuesday Jun 25, 2019
Tuesday Jun 25, 2019
Richard and Adam are joined by Laura Simon a second-year student at Osgoode Hall Law School, for part one of our first two-part episode! Our topic: the notorious LSAT. Laura talks about her experience teaching an LSAT prep course. Adam goes through a typical LSAT day. Richard talks about his own LSAT experience and how he should have brought food.
The group deals with the two most notorious sections of the LSAT, the reading comprehension and logic games sections.
Required Readings:
Law School Admissions Test Blog - https://lsatblog.blogspot.com/p/welcome.html
LSAT Practice Test - https://harvardready.com/res/files/SamplePTJune.pdf
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Tell us about your LSAT horror stories.
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "The Scissors" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoArsw1XXY
Thursday Jun 06, 2019
Thursday Jun 06, 2019
Richard and Adam are joined by Corey Fletcher, a first-year student as Osgoode Hall Law School. The group talk about a Criminal Law fact pattern question and Criminal Minds. They tackle such important questions as:
Is it ever okay to eat another person?
Does "imposter syndrome" ever end?
Is Vis-à-vis a valid payment method for online purchases? And,
should you wear a suit on your first day of law school?
Required Readings:
101 Things I Learned in Law School - Matthew Frederick
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Accepting calls from Regina only.
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "The Scissors" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoArsw1XXY
Monday May 20, 2019
Monday May 20, 2019
Richard and Adam are joined by Charlotte Davis, a self-employed marketing and communications specialist for professional service firms. She also happens to be Richard's partner. The trio talk about creativity in law and alternative approaches to using the transferable skills developed in law school.
Richard plays a clip about the "Vibe" of the Australian Constitution and speaks to his time in Australia with Charlotte. Charlotte talks about her love for the arts and its impact on her non-traditional legal career. Adam thinks podcasts are the new blog and tries to dive into the nitty gritty of meeting one's significant other at law school.
Required Readings:
Charlotte Davis, Apostrophe, apostrophe…wherefore art thou? http://www.vervecomms.ca/resources/apostrophe-apostrophe-wherefore-art-thou/
Steven Waddams, Introduction to the Study of Law, 8th Edition 2016
WATCH: The Castle (1997).
Questions?:
Call 681-443-7763 and leave a voicemail. Please send your extensive book reviews here.
Music Attribution:
"Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It?"
Cover by "The Scissors" @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoArsw1XXY